Greener's Humane Horse Killer

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Sold for $920. Humans have been killing animals for thousands of years, and with the development of the self-contained cartridge, the Greener company started making a compact and efficient Humane Horse Killer. Used by veterinarians for euthanizing creatures (versions were made for pretty much all major domesticated animals), they were made into the 1960s. This type of device is known as a "free-bullet" design because it uses a traditional cartridge, as opposed to the captive-bolt designs which maintain positive control of the lethal end of the device and retract it into the unit after firing. This particular Greener model is one of the more commonly encountered types, as it was used by the British military (which used horses in great numbers in both World Wars) and was a standard piece of equipment for troops tasked with overseeing care of those horses. http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons

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  • This was very nice, thank you Ian.

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  • Human horse?wtf ya killing centaurs for? Ohh...

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  • I was expecting Ian to say that it doesn't have a drop safety...

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  • Just use a tank gewehr

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  • Just use a tank gewer

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  • has it ever actually been proved that a headshot is an instant, humane kill? Brain trauma doesn't always mean instant death, and it's very well thought that victims of the guillotine would survive for several seconds after their heads were removed, responding to outside stimuli with pained expressions. Just kinda scary to think that you could actually still be alive for a few moments after a shot to the head

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  • this is weirdly enough the most interesting episode of forgotten weapons i have seen.

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  • Why not just use ones rifle or side arm to put down the animal?

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  • or you could just shoot them in the back of the head

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  • https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlachtschussapparat

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  • Looks like a lightsaber

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  • Machines created for killing animals are just so much more grim than firearms for some reason. Mabye it's the upclose nature

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  • That's one weird looking vape

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  • Where are all the butthurt vegans people are talking about?

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  • i would have blown off my own thumb. not going to lie.

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  • By the time you set this up, the horse would have died on its own...

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  • I'm just glad it's not for ducks...

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  • the ratio of hyperdefensive manly men versus people complaining of animal cruelty in this comment section is approximately 500 to 1

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  • If we have this why do we need lethal injection??

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  • RIP Horses

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  • Weapon or tool? Both?

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  • But, if these were used in war times, why not use a normal pistol? In a war youre going to need one anyways, so why carry a second device that basically does the same thing?

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  • “Is a Nazi a kind of animal?” -Whoever made the Welwand

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  • Did anyone notice how sad Ian's voice was? Must be a hard episode for him.

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  • Since it fires a live round and has a rifled barrel would it be considered a gun in the U.S.? In which case would the stand off be considered a suppressor?

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  • 5:56 that part looks a car cellphone charger

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  • what's the most you've ever lost on a coin toss?

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  • I've heard that another reason why free bolt pistols became more popular was do to mad cow disease, which is concentrated in the brain tissue. That bolt is going to get a little bit of tissue on it each time you use it and "prions" the malformed proteins within DNA that cause mad cow disease aka BSE "Bovine spongiform encephalopathy" are extremely hard to destroy with any standard industrial cleaning method, including extreme heat, ionizing radiation, formaldehyde, protein destroying enzymes, ETC. And the bolt's retraction also throws some microscopic bits of brain tissue back into the mechanism and around the working space as well, so it's not just the bolt that needs to be cleaned in such a complex and expensive way either...

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  • That's a firearm......ok.....I feel bad for the citizens of the UK.

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  • Seems like a lot of hastle, instead of just using a rifle or a sidearm.

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  • Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough.

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  • so humane you could use it on people

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  • I wonder if any WW2 Veterinarian's were ambushed in the midst of putting down a horse and managed to kill a Nazi with one of these.

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  • Cant you just use a revolver instead ?

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  • What a weird device. It would seem far more useful to just issue a revolver with a large barrel shroud, for a faster follow up if the "deed" only wounded the poor animal. A cumbersome single shot small caliber vet gun seems really dumb. But interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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  • If you watched the PBS series based on James Herriots’ books one of these devices was shown. Of course you never saw it used.

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  • Would this work on MUSLIMS?

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  • People find this grim because it’s an execution device rather than a weapon; you do it at point blank range, to something that isn’t a threat to you. The people in comments accusing others of caring about horses more than humans really aren’t understanding that it’s the nature of the device, not the fact that it‘s specifically for animals, which makes people uncomfortable. It’s just as off putting as an execution syringe. There’s nothing sporty or decorative about this; it’s death in a cylinder- the most honest gun ever made.

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  • Aren’t guns humane

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  • Human killing is impossible you fucktard!

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  • I know its just a name but there is no humane way to kill. There are just less crueller ways to kill.

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  • My only issue with this is if it's to be used in a warzone, then I would assume that even the veterinarians would be armed with at least a service pistol. So why waste the manufacturing capability on a specialized piece of equipment when you have a generalized piece of equipment which will do the job at least as well. And for veterinarians who aren't in the military a suppressed 22 caliber or larger caliber would be an ideal tool (vp9? And more flexible: what about a large animal thrashing on the ground... you wouldn't want to get close enough to lay this thing against his forehead if it's in pain and thrashing. But a suppressed semi-automatic pistol could easily reach 10 yards or more and it wouldn't be a single-use specialized piece of equipment), without carrying around a specialized piece of equipment.

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  • Seems like they could have combined the two methods and developed a captive bolt that was driven by a blank round. Cool video.

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  • @2:40 Are you talking about military vets...

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  • Vetting pistol is a better word to not offend snowflakes

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  • Wouldnt it be mor practical to use a cartrige already in service since it wouldnt be so scarce or require a special production line?

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  • Should have said "If you managed to stay awake through No Country For Old Men" Literally the only good part of that movie was the device, not the guy weilding it, just that it was used as a weapon in a movie. 2 hours, completely wasted.

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  • Concealed carry

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  • I think its good they made one for dogs also cs u theres are times where u have to put them doen cs u rather wouldnt want them suffering like if they got really messed up

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  • So what exactly is the logic here? The army has a million guns just lying around yet it still has the need for this special firearm using a special cartridge for a very specific task that any other gun can do?

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  • I understand that there are dire times when an animal cannot be saved. But I think this would be better used on criminals.

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  • Personally i consider the word humane to be flawed, the human race is anything but humane and the word is an insult to the idea it represents, by implying that to be as peaceful and kind as possible is a human trait when humans are such sadidtic and violent creatures.

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  • Good work friendo!

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  • 3:40 to cut out the boring guy

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  • In a battlefield situation there are hundreds of guys with rifles; why do you need this gadget?

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  • Didn't they have enough real guns in the military to put down horses with?

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  • Wonder if they were rifled because the company was making long lengths of various barrels for other weapons or manufacturers and it was easier just to rifle the whole length of steel tube made and then chop them up into various lengths depending on what was ordered?

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  • I like you guy's vids, but I do wish you would field fire the ones that you feature, when possible.

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  • NORMALLY I get a little bit disappointed whenever the weapons are not being tested, but I'm OK with skipping it this once :) Nice to see some other side of history that is never really talked about, I never even considered taking out horses as something you would have to plan for during pre mechanized warfare.

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  • Dammit! I tuned into this thinking you’re going to kill a horse what a let down. Sarcasm 😂

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  • Should make this for people. Why not if you do it to animals.

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  • It’s rifled because a spinning bullet travels more straight through the target than a smoothbore projectile would.

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  • Wait, it telescoped into a tiny package!? It must be an assault weapon! -Liberals

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  • Video starts at 3:45sec

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  • Why is it not considered a firearm? If it was that tube would probably be considered a suppressor too if the report was actually decreased at all

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  • should have tested it on a real horse... you know, just to make sure it works before someone buys it for over $900

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  • What kind of 'mess' we talking about? Just blood sprinkles or eyeball ejection?

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  • Fuck that's a lot of dimples

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  • 212 people dont have a sense of reality

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  • idk, in a war scenario wouldn't you have plenty of rifles to do this sort of thing anyhow?

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  • No little bitty Guinea Pig one?

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  • Shouldn't it be called "horsane horse killer"?

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  • Since when wasnt streight up execution not humane. Like just shoot it in the head at close range.

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  • A Cox bolt gun would also be an interesting review Ian . (see you tube video).

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  • If you use this on people, do you make Soilent Green? I bet hat Nancy Pelosi and Joe "Bite Me" Biden both get moist just thinking of all the ways they could ban this veterinary WMD!

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  • technically a cowboys 6 shooter is a humane horse killer. as that was its main function. shooting a runaway horse, to stop it killing you. when you use 7-8 horses a day and they are barely trained. you do end up shooting a few. just to stay alive or uninjured.

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  • Why not just use a gun?

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  • Not sure if the part with 'Top' on it should also read "this side toward enemy" or "this side toward patient" interesting device.

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  • Presumably the American counterpart was the Walker Humane Horse Killer - ironically, made by _Colt._

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  • Why did i read humane whore killer ._.

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  • There is a number of reasons why this was used. 1. It not viewed as a weapon, so non-combat vets could use them without being armed. 2. It much safer then using a handgun or rifle, and more humane as the bullet ends up in the right spot to put the animal down. 3. Vets knew how to use these as vets and Knackermen would use these to put down cattle and horses in civilian life.

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  • A real man would just use a hammer

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  • If your out of cartridges to fire the thing you can always smash in an incoming zombie's brains with it as a billy club. :)

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  • Probably banned in New York and California.

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  • no country for old men

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  • I first heard of this in the James Herriot books. Nice to see what it looks like.

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  • These diples are the worst part about that thingy...

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  • So many things to go wrong with this apart from the scary thought of dropping it; they don't make'em like they used to and sometimes that's a good thing :) !

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  • Huh. If I saw this laying around, I'd probably end up shooting myself in the eye thinking it was an antique telescope or something.

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  • Does it use a blank or a real round? If a real round does the projectile just hit the firing pen and rattle around in the tube?

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  • What’s wrong with a grenade tied to the mane?

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  • I wonder if stuff like this lead to the development of the the nail drivers used to drive nails into concrete and other masonry

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  • Lol, when your enemy is injured so you troll his death with this.

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  • Omg this gun has a pommel that can be unscrewed 10/10 elite killer weapon- To end them in a rightly fashion.

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  • I find it interesting that a video I have already watched long ago, pops up on my YouTube recommended on the same day I explain to my Girlfriend how and what this device is used for

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  • Animals don't start wars, that's why it's more sad to see them die in movies, people are assholes

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  • I can understand existence of such a device in civilian world. It would be neither humane nor proper to use a shotgun or a pistol to kill an animal especially in possible existence of kids or other sensitive people in a ranch. However why in the earth a military veterinarian need a special "weapon" to kill an animal while there are loads of military weapons lying around and nobody cares about killing something?

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  • Why don't just shoot them with a gun I mean you are going to disassemble it and then reassemble it shoot your horse do all this again somebody can snipe your ass in all this time.

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  • whats the purpose of this when you can just shoot the horse with a regular firearm

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  • Ian stop murdering horses

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